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Ben Stone's avatar

Critical reflection: the essay implies a kind of “Scripture as infallible” versus “interpretation as fallible” dichotomy. But how can we affirm the former without relying on the latter? On what basis can we claim Scripture’s authority—if not through our own interpretive mediation?

This tension raises a deeper question: what does it actually mean to “submit” to Scripture? If surrender requires setting aside our interpretive agency, do we risk reducing faith to obedience without understanding—subjugating the spirit of the law to its letter, or vice versa? Yet if discernment remains active, doesn’t that mean our relationship to Scripture is inevitably interpretive—not immune to error, but made alive through creative and critical engagement?

A reason-based discernment, even one that is self-critical rather than self-certain, remains unavoidably interpretive—and therefore perpetually vulnerable to misinterpretation.

Is kinesiology-based (“muscle-testing”) discernment, then, the answer? Or is that, too, mediated?

Holistic United's avatar

We’re not denying interpretation; we’re resisting the collapse of authority into interpretation. Scripture is always mediated through human reading, but no reading is identical with the text’s authority. Submission doesn’t suspend reason, it relativizes it, keeping our interpretations provisional and answerable rather than final. Every method, including somatic ones like kinesiology, is mediated; none bypass humility or error. Discernment isn’t escaping mediation, it’s refusing to let our mediation become infallible.

Ben Stone's avatar

“No reading is identical with the text’s authority”: What about the reading THAT the text is authorative?

“Discernment is… refusing to…become infallible”: Doesn't that make discernment a form of relativism? (Which is arguably the opposite of Scripture)?

Holistic United's avatar

Calling Scripture authoritative is a meta-commitment about posture, not a claim that any one reading captures its full authority. Authority is received through interpretation, not created by it. And no, discernment isn’t relativism: relativism denies stable truth, while discernment assumes truth exists and therefore keeps our interpretations humble, partial, and corrigible. It refuses to make either the self or any interpretation infallible.

Ben Stone's avatar

"A meta-commitment about posture": A meta-claim that Scripture is authoritative - irrespective of its interpretation - is still an interpretative claim. In what sense is a "meta-commitment about posture" not a subtle claim about Scripture's authority?

"Authority is received through interpretation, not created by it": How is Scripture "received" if not through interpretation? What might this form of "reception" look like in practice (not just rhetorically)?

"Discernment isn't relativism; relativism denies stable truth... [yet discernment] refuses to make... any interpretation infallible": Isn't there a contradiction here? If discernment is unlike relativism in that it affirms truth, how can it do so without claiming truth to be infallible? In other words, if truth isn't infallible, what makes it true? Or rather, if we say truth is fallible, can it really be called truth?

Tina Brown-Eckart's avatar

Whew! A load of words here…. Of which I’ve read. I think everything said here is ok because it’s your interpretation of what scripture is at this point fore you in your lives. Perhaps months or years from now your processing will reveal something additional calling for a different slant. Or not.

When I read scripture in meditation and prayer I follow the way of Lectio Divina. Are you acquainted with that method of letting God guide and inform you of what seems the loving way of being related to the chosen scripture? Of course, there are BIG cautions here and that’s why a Spiritual Guide or Director is helpful with discerning with the meditator what the message might be. It’s helpful for the meditator to be familiar with discernment themselves. This is an additional process to what you described as the characteristics of scripture. Because we’re simply human attempting to interact with them Divine errors can be made sometimes. Keeping open to that is essential and how we learn. Appropriately trained Spiritual Directors can be helpful.

Holistic United's avatar

That explains it well, and we’re largely aligned. Lectio Divina and spiritual direction can deepen discernment precisely because they keep the reader humble and corrigible. Any method, contemplative or analytical, only goes wrong when it becomes self-sealing instead of accountable.

Ben Stone's avatar

Valid point, but ultimately, it seems it inevitably comes down to one's own interpretation and acceptance of these forms of guidance. You could have a divine message written on the wall (or your heart) or the best spiritual director in the world right in front of you, but if you are unable to discern their value - and accept it with your own free will - it's as good as useless. The rational mind cannot escape its encounter with the infinite unknowable. Faith, then, in my opinion, is inescapable (as well as a continual development of spiritual discernment).

Tina Brown-Eckart's avatar

A continual development of spiritual discernment, I sense, is essential. Of course, one can be lured by their ego…. All part of discernment.